Comments on: Developing the Vince Lombardi Habit of Winning http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/ On a Quest for Personal Freedom Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:24:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: Hector http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-106474 Hector Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:45:52 +0000 http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-106474 I think that self decipline is much improtant to become a successful person in this world. In every feild there are rules and regulations and you have to follow them in order to find success in that feild. We should be keen. I think that self decipline is much improtant to become a successful person in this world. In every feild there are rules and regulations and you have to follow them in order to find success in that feild. We should be keen.

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By: Al at 7P http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-73158 Al at 7P Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:04:44 +0000 http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-73158 I've been reading the comments and find it as valuable as the post itself (thanks for the link to the Lombardi speech). You wrote a great article and helped create a great discussion. Just wanted to share that! I’ve been reading the comments and find it as valuable as the post itself (thanks for the link to the Lombardi speech).

You wrote a great article and helped create a great discussion. Just wanted to share that!

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By: Humpday Linkage - Jan. 23/08 | Broadcasting Brain http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-72853 Humpday Linkage - Jan. 23/08 | Broadcasting Brain Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:32:29 +0000 http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-72853 [...] Develop The Vince Lombardi Habit of Winning [...] […] Develop The Vince Lombardi Habit of Winning […]

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By: Jeff http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-72411 Jeff Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:26:31 +0000 http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-72411 Poor Brett. Maybe next year. Eli was too much for the Pack in -25 below weather. J Poor Brett. Maybe next year.
Eli was too much for the Pack in -25 below weather.

J

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By: Jean Browman--Cheerful Monk http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-72349 Jean Browman--Cheerful Monk Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:04:00 +0000 http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-72349 Steve, Thank you! I believe one size doesn't fit all, and the deeper we go into personal transformation the more we have to become an expert about our own lives. I believe the best gift we can give one another is to try to see our own experience clearly and share what we’ve learned. You did just that in your last comment. :) Please keep us posted about your ongoing adventure. Steve,
Thank you! I believe one size doesn’t fit all, and the deeper we go into personal transformation the more we have to become an expert about our own lives. I believe the best gift we can give one another is to try to see our own experience clearly and share what we’ve learned. You did just that in your last comment. :) Please keep us posted about your ongoing adventure.

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By: Sanne http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-72290 Sanne Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:49:33 +0000 http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-72290 This explains a lot... No seriously: it does. I have an IQ over 140 and it's never been difficult for me to learn. I read something one time, maybe two and I get it. I've never had to put in much effort, even when teachers gave me extra work so I would not get bored in class. Now I'm 21, in college and it takes about 90% of my energy just to turn on my computer when I have to do an assignment. I want to (failing feels embarrasing), but I can't, if that makes any sense. It's like there's no spark, nothing to fuel my inner fire if I may be so corny. I think you're spot on about needing to test my limits. I have one great passion: writing. I have the feeling that my 'vegetive' feeling (sorry, English is not my native language) will dissapear once I start a novel, pour every last bit of my soul in it, and then kick, scratch, growl and bite my way to a publisher. To just focus solely on writing to the best of my abilities and then fight to the teeth to get it in stores, blowing away the competition. If I did that, I know I would feel alive again... ... so why am I afraid to get started? This explains a lot… No seriously: it does. I have an IQ over 140 and it’s never been difficult for me to learn. I read something one time, maybe two and I get it. I’ve never had to put in much effort, even when teachers gave me extra work so I would not get bored in class. Now I’m 21, in college and it takes about 90% of my energy just to turn on my computer when I have to do an assignment. I want to (failing feels embarrasing), but I can’t, if that makes any sense. It’s like there’s no spark, nothing to fuel my inner fire if I may be so corny. I think you’re spot on about needing to test my limits. I have one great passion: writing. I have the feeling that my ‘vegetive’ feeling (sorry, English is not my native language) will dissapear once I start a novel, pour every last bit of my soul in it, and then kick, scratch, growl and bite my way to a publisher. To just focus solely on writing to the best of my abilities and then fight to the teeth to get it in stores, blowing away the competition. If I did that, I know I would feel alive again…

… so why am I afraid to get started?

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By: Steve http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-72224 Steve Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:13:06 +0000 http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-72224 Jean, How I push myself in my life? Right now? A few months ago an electrical engineer left our company in the middle of leading a major enterprise software development project with two deadlines one in Feb and another in May. I volunteered to take over the project in addition to my regular job. I know nothing about electrical engineering and I wanted the opportunity to learn in a hands-on product development project. I wanted the challenge. To be honest, I didn't pay much attention in school after the second grade and never went to college. So for the last 10 years, I've been working hard on my education. I attend real college classes from time to time, but formal education has never been a good fit for me, so much of it I do on my own. Right now I am working on my <a href="http://www.personalmba.com"> personal MBA</a> and also spend time working the open courseware from Yale, Cal Berkley, and MIT. I never learned to type and I am using typefaster to train myself. I also consider this blog part of my education, but lately I've been focusing in other areas and blogging less. I'm considering training in Mixed Martial Arts, which consists of Boxing, Thai Boxing, Ju Jitsu, and Kenpo. But I am afraid I won't be able to fully commit to the program, so I am waffling. I help my wife Christine with her growing internet business. We both push very hard there. We both started a dot com in 1998 and worked about 80 hours a week for two years and sold before everything went kaput in 2000. Now this one looks like it has more potential than the last one, so we work hard on that. Last but not least, I push myself hard to be a good dad. To be available and present as much as possible for my boys. About burnout... Yes, I've burned out before, back in about 2000 before I had kids. I could feel physical and mental deterioration and I was headed for a big fall. That's why we sold the company. I also had burnout in about 2003. After that I got into personal development, learned about Zen, meditation, and balance in life. I try to apply the principles daily, but it is hard. I'm only happy when I'm pushing hard. I'm one of those people that is all the way on or all the way off. But I am slowly making progress with balance. The biggest challenges I face are learning to moderate happily and learning to let go of the desire to control everything and trust God (the universe, for my atheist friends) to do more of the work. Thanks for asking :-) Jean,

How I push myself in my life? Right now?

A few months ago an electrical engineer left our company in the middle of leading a major enterprise software development project with two deadlines one in Feb and another in May. I volunteered to take over the project in addition to my regular job. I know nothing about electrical engineering and I wanted the opportunity to learn in a hands-on product development project. I wanted the challenge.

To be honest, I didn’t pay much attention in school after the second grade and never went to college. So for the last 10 years, I’ve been working hard on my education. I attend real college classes from time to time, but formal education has never been a good fit for me, so much of it I do on my own. Right now I am working on my personal MBA and also spend time working the open courseware from Yale, Cal Berkley, and MIT. I never learned to type and I am using typefaster to train myself. I also consider this blog part of my education, but lately I’ve been focusing in other areas and blogging less.

I’m considering training in Mixed Martial Arts, which consists of Boxing, Thai Boxing, Ju Jitsu, and Kenpo. But I am afraid I won’t be able to fully commit to the program, so I am waffling.

I help my wife Christine with her growing internet business. We both push very hard there. We both started a dot com in 1998 and worked about 80 hours a week for two years and sold before everything went kaput in 2000. Now this one looks like it has more potential than the last one, so we work hard on that.

Last but not least, I push myself hard to be a good dad. To be available and present as much as possible for my boys.

About burnout… Yes, I’ve burned out before, back in about 2000 before I had kids. I could feel physical and mental deterioration and I was headed for a big fall. That’s why we sold the company. I also had burnout in about 2003.

After that I got into personal development, learned about Zen, meditation, and balance in life. I try to apply the principles daily, but it is hard. I’m only happy when I’m pushing hard. I’m one of those people that is all the way on or all the way off. But I am slowly making progress with balance. The biggest challenges I face are learning to moderate happily and learning to let go of the desire to control everything and trust God (the universe, for my atheist friends) to do more of the work.

Thanks for asking :-)

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By: Jean Browman--Cheerful Monk http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-72122 Jean Browman--Cheerful Monk Sun, 20 Jan 2008 05:52:58 +0000 http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-72122 "But I still love to compete. Strange huh?" Actually I don't find that strange at all. It's the way you motivate yourself to feel fully alive. It gives you a way of measuring how well you're doing. My path is somewhat different, so competition doesn't work as well for me. I'm more of an explorer, so I have to figure out a different way of telling how I'm doing. At the moment I'm thinking of when my daughter was little. I purposely didn't take a job that would use my problem solving talent because I would become too involved, and spending time with her was the most important use of my time. So I read about child development, did volunteering, and learned to play the piano, practicing a half hour to an hour a day. It satisfied the part of me that wanted some mastery and was an area where I could think in terms of "progress". But the time I spent with her, giving her a good foundation, was one of the best things I've done in my life. And in order to do it I had to put my drive aside for a while. To me that period of my life was different than striving for a goal. You could say I did have a goal, the idea of the kind of person I wanted her to be. But I purposely operated under the assumption that she would never live to be an adult. That wasn't being fearful or morbid. It was a way of stepping out of the goal-achieving mindset and doing what I was doing for it's own sake. The best way I can describe it is it was sacred space and time. Anyway, thanks for this topic and conversation. I love the fact that you are conversing, not just preaching. I'd like to know more about the particulars of your life. How exactly are you pushing yourself? How does taking breaks fit in? Do you sometimes push yourself so hard that you risk burnout? How do other people fit into your schedule? Etc., etc. I'd really like to know. I believe we're all different, and I love seeing what works for other people. “But I still love to compete. Strange huh?” Actually I don’t find that strange at all. It’s the way you motivate yourself to feel fully alive. It gives you a way of measuring how well you’re doing. My path is somewhat different, so competition doesn’t work as well for me. I’m more of an explorer, so I have to figure out a different way of telling how I’m doing.

At the moment I’m thinking of when my daughter was little. I purposely didn’t take a job that would use my problem solving talent because I would become too involved, and spending time with her was the most important use of my time. So I read about child development, did volunteering, and learned to play the piano, practicing a half hour to an hour a day. It satisfied the part of me that wanted some mastery and was an area where I could think in terms of “progress”. But the time I spent with her, giving her a good foundation, was one of the best things I’ve done in my life. And in order to do it I had to put my drive aside for a while. To me that period of my life was different than striving for a goal. You could say I did have a goal, the idea of the kind of person I wanted her to be. But I purposely operated under the assumption that she would never live to be an adult. That wasn’t being fearful or morbid. It was a way of stepping out of the goal-achieving mindset and doing what I was doing for it’s own sake. The best way I can describe it is it was sacred space and time.

Anyway, thanks for this topic and conversation. I love the fact that you are conversing, not just preaching. I’d like to know more about the particulars of your life. How exactly are you pushing yourself? How does taking breaks fit in? Do you sometimes push yourself so hard that you risk burnout? How do other people fit into your schedule? Etc., etc. I’d really like to know. I believe we’re all different, and I love seeing what works for other people.

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By: Steve http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-72115 Steve Sun, 20 Jan 2008 05:01:53 +0000 http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-72115 Jean, Beating other people... As strange as it may sound... after writing this post... I've never given a shit about beating anyone else. It's always been about me not them. Am I doing the best I can? Golf is the perfect competition. You are playing yourself and the course and the other players are doing the same. The number of times you strike the ball is the measure, but it has nothing to do with anyone else. To measure your progress at anything, I feel you need a metric. It could be your golf score, the hockey score, your profit margin, your weight, the miles you run, the quality of the code you write, anything can be a metric. That's why people play games... to test themselves against a metric... a score... another team... a competitor. My son's martial arts instructor has a sign on his wall that reads... "Winning isn't everything, the attempt to win is." It's not about making someone else a loser, it's about being the best you can be. Losing isn't a bad thing, it's part of growth... it's humbling. No matter what you do, there is almost always competition involved. For example you said you attended Stanford. When you were accepted to Stanford someone else wasn't because of limited space. Your goal wasn't to keep anyone out of Stanford, you just wanted the opportunity to attend Stanford. But your desire to attend Stanford was indirectly competitive. So your attempt to get in was an attempt to win and your hard work paid off. No shame in that. Reaching your goals is almost always competitive at some level. Sometimes it isn't as direct as boxing or football... but it's there. Even the search for a mate is competitive... I mean there is 6-7 billion people on earth to choose from... and they have to choose you too. That makes it even more competitive. Anyway... Jean... I respect you and I understand... I don't ever feel the desire to beat anyone else either. In fact when I have beat someone in the past... it actually makes me feel really bad inside. If I feel I've gained something at someone else expense, I don't like it. But I still love to compete. Strange huh? Jean,
Beating other people…
As strange as it may sound… after writing this post…
I’ve never given a shit about beating anyone else. It’s always been about me not them. Am I doing the best I can?

Golf is the perfect competition. You are playing yourself and the course and the other players are doing the same. The number of times you strike the ball is the measure, but it has nothing to do with anyone else.

To measure your progress at anything, I feel you need a metric. It could be your golf score, the hockey score, your profit margin, your weight, the miles you run, the quality of the code you write, anything can be a metric. That’s why people play games… to test themselves against a metric… a score… another team… a competitor.

My son’s martial arts instructor has a sign on his wall that reads…

“Winning isn’t everything, the attempt to win is.”

It’s not about making someone else a loser, it’s about being the best you can be. Losing isn’t a bad thing, it’s part of growth… it’s humbling.

No matter what you do, there is almost always competition involved. For example you said you attended Stanford. When you were accepted to Stanford someone else wasn’t because of limited space. Your goal wasn’t to keep anyone out of Stanford, you just wanted the opportunity to attend Stanford. But your desire to attend Stanford was indirectly competitive. So your attempt to get in was an attempt to win and your hard work paid off. No shame in that.

Reaching your goals is almost always competitive at some level. Sometimes it isn’t as direct as boxing or football… but it’s there.

Even the search for a mate is competitive… I mean there is 6-7 billion people on earth to choose from… and they have to choose you too. That makes it even more competitive.

Anyway… Jean… I respect you and I understand… I don’t ever feel the desire to beat anyone else either. In fact when I have beat someone in the past… it actually makes me feel really bad inside. If I feel I’ve gained something at someone else expense, I don’t like it.

But I still love to compete. Strange huh?

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By: AdventureDad http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-72052 AdventureDad Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:41:08 +0000 http://www.steve-olson.com/developing-the-vince-lombardi-habit-of-winning/#comment-72052 It sounds so simple when reading the post...... Love the other creative posters. Nice weekend AD It sounds so simple when reading the post…… Love the other creative posters.

Nice weekend

AD

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