When my son was born, I imagined how I would teach him about life. Little did I know that he would be the teacher. He taught me:
- To use positive words
One evening at the dinner table my son said, “Dad this food is disgusting.” I thought - where did that word come from? Another time while I was explaining the rules to a game he said, “Now that’s just ridiculous.” A minute later he said, “this is stupid, I give up.” At that moment it dawned on me… He’s getting this stuff from me. From now on I better choose my words carefully.
- To look for opportunity everywhere
My son views the entire world and every new person, new object, or new event as an opportunity to learn something. When a new person walks in the room he wants to know who they are and if they would like to play. If I drop a new object into a cluttered room, he will spot it, touch it, pick it up, ask questions about it. Nothing new goes unnoticed.
- A new synonym for persistence
Santa Claus brought my son a white board and a set of dry erase makers for Christmas (can you tell I’m in IT). My son learned to write very early. He spent months obsessed with writing letters on the white board. One day I looked at the board while he was writing and I saw this combination of capital letters - SHHANDSHOWBO. He also knows how to sound out words, so I asked him what it was. He said, “It’s a word I made up - Sha-hand-show-bo.” I asked, “What does it mean?” He said, “To keep trying even when it’s hard.” Now when I get frustrated I think - Sha-hand-show-bo.
- To ask big questions
A few weeks ago our cat was dying. So I explained death to my son and told him our cat was going to heaven. I was amazed that he grasped the permanence of death. Like the other members of my family he was very sad for several days. Then he asked, “Dad, how do you get to heaven?” I said,”Well everyone goes there when they die.” He said, “No I mean, how do you get there? Do go out the door and get in the car? Do you take a rocket?” I had to admit to him that I didn’t know how you get to heaven, I just believe in it. A few days latter he asked, “If God made me, who made God?” Good question. I haven’t thought about that one in years.
- To accept mistakes
Watching my son grow and learn, it became clear that all learning is based on trying something new, making a mistake, adjusting your actions, trying again, repeating until you get the results you desire. That is how he learned to walk, speak, read, write, build lego walls, set up train tracks, jump, run, and pedal. I can’t think of one thing he did right the first time. It is a good thing he has an abundance of sha-hand-show-bo.
- To pay attention to little details
When my son was 2, he was pointing in a box and saying, “ate, ate, ate, ate.” I said no you don’t want to eat the box. He said, “no, ate, ate, ate.” I looked in the box and it was empty. I looked at him puzzled. He stuck his face in the box and said, “ate, ate.” I looked again closely. On the bottom of the box, in the corner, printed in a small font was the number 8. He sees things I don’t see, because he pays attention to little things everywhere, like the tiny red dot on the white sheetrock wall he called an “owie.”
- To stop complaining
Recently my son went through a phase where he complained about everything. His food was too hot, playtime was too short, he didn’t want to go to pre-school, everything was “too hard.” This experience forced me to think and come up with a plan to help my son through this phase. I developed some techniques to help him stop complaining. His phase taught me how irritating it is to listen to complaints without solutions. His complaining taught me to listen to myself when I start to gripe and realize complaining isn’t going to get me the results I desire. It is one thing to identify something uncomfortable or painful you wish to change, and another to sit and complain about it and do nothing. Solutions provide value - gripes sap energy. Besides, how can I expect my son to stop complaining, if I complain - see #8.
- To strive for consistency
If I am inconsistent with my expectations and actions my son won’t understand what I expect. For example, if I tell him I won’t allow him to jump on the furniture and then let him do it occasionally; he becomes confused and jumps on the furniture trying to understand his limits. The consequences for jumping on the couch are random and he never understands my expectations. If I let his little brother jump on the couch, rest assured, he will say “you let him jump on the couch. Why can’t I jump on the couch?” and I won’t have a meaningful answer. Since I have seen inconsistency lead to chaos with my 4-year-old, I now believe it will lead to chaos in every area of my life.
- How to build a maze with random items in the garage



- To experiment
My son learns everything by experimenting. He learn the rules of the house by experimenting. He must ask questions in his mind at some level - like what will happen if I flick this spoonful of mash potatoes at my little brother? or how will mom react if I eat this bug? Now I’m not recommending that you or anyone else start flicking food at each other or start eating insects just to find out what happens. What I am suggesting is that my son illustrates how we learn. We learn by experimenting. Never stop experimenting.
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October 2nd, 2006 at 6:01 am
1[...] Steve at steve-olson.com has been learning a lot from his 4-year-old. A fresh perspective on parenting. [...]
Mike G
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:42 am
2What you failed to learn from your four year old.
Number 4. The god hypothesis is pretty unlikely - why are you trying to pass on this delusion to your child - he can see straight through it but you can’t.
javier
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:59 am
3Hi Steven great insights, I have 8 yr boy and a 6 yr girl, and they have taught me a lot also.
Anyway, I thinks anyone’s words fall short when trying to communicate what parenthood is like in terms of learning about the world and oneself…
TBaggz
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:53 am
4smart kid….hopefully someday he’ll be smart enough to break free of the religous brainwashing you’ve given him…
KG
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:58 am
5Wow Mike G….way to kill a great story.
Dave P
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:59 am
6Steve,
Flew in from reddit…nice post.
Your son sounds very bright, and it’s mostly due I’m sure to you being a great father. As someone who is expecting his first child, I hope I can be as effective as you seem to be.
Cheers!
P.S. Mike G.: seriously, don’t be a dink.
Nick
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:08 am
7MikeG - I wondered why parents tend to explain the heaven thing, and I think Steve took a fairly typical approach. Noone likes to think about their own mortality especially when explaining it to a child. The heaven hypothesis just serves to ease the adults explanation of death. You’re quite right in so much as it seems the child (well done to him) understands the fallacy and would like to be taught more, not less.
Very interesting reading. I suppose when the time comes I shall see what route I take with my children explaining moratlity.
God (i hope there is one)
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:13 am
8Mike G
You’re a real ass. You’re an aethist (which is fine by me,) but there’s no reason to be a dick about it in the comment section of an article about a man’s joyful experiences with his small child.
I haven’y been to church in twenty years, but in my mind you are as nutty in your evangelizing about aethism as the nuts in the Christian neo-con right.
Can’t a person write about anything without you nutters lobbying in and attacking a four year old’s beliefs?
me
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:16 am
9“So I explained death to my son and told him our cat was going to heaven.”
Yes indoctrinate your young. That’s good parenting.
Why not explain that when things die, they no longer exsist? You should explain to your child about nothingness, the void, and the vast emptyness of space-time.
Anon
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:25 am
10My when she was 3, asked a great question: Where was I BEFORE I was born? I never really stopped to think of things that way before.
oku
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:48 am
11Actually, I like this post, and gave me food for thought, but the ‘heaven’ thing really gives it a bad taste. I already commented on reddit:
> A few weeks ago our cat was dying. So I explained death to my son and told him our cat was going to heaven.
This is misleading the child. You do not know if heaven exists. It’s okay to say that you believe in it, and admit that you do not know and that others do not believe in it, but it’s wrong to say that it’s a fact.
I told my son that some people do believe that, but I also told him that I do not.
Encourage them to think about it themselves. Even if they are still too young, they will think about it later.
Dave
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:48 am
12re: #4
Instead of taking the easy route, indoctrinating him with your faith. You should encourage him to compose his own ideas about the origin of life.
Present many different theories to him (Evolution, and also borrow from other religions if you like, Buddhism, Jainism, Hinduism, Christianity, Paganism, Taoism, Hare Krishna”ism”, Greek mythology, or even Flying Spaghetti Monsterism), then allow him to weigh up the theories and come to his own conclusions.
You’ll find that you’ll learn a lot in the process. As by the time most people reach parenthood, the concept “It was, it is, therefore it always shall be” is deeply embued in their core beliefs.
Perhaps your son can show you the path to enlightenment.
Carl Sagan’s Cosmos is a great/educational television series which he’ll (and probably you’ll) almost certainly love.
Dave
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:50 am
13Also, read Aesops fables to your kid.
They’re mostly incredibly wise/to the point, and teach good moral values.
oku
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:00 am
14God,
“Can’t a person write about anything without you nutters lobbying in and attacking a four year old’s beliefs?”
A four year old child does not have yet any belief, so there is nothing to attack. It still needs to make up its own mind. I think it’s wrong to tell anything you do not know, but just believe, as a fact.
MikeG is correct, when he says that the child saw through it. Do not destroy their questioning. There are things we do not know, and it is important to accept that, and not invent any truths to fill in the gaps.
newsens
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:22 am
15Steve’s kid is smarter than those stupid Americans who have been brainwashed to believe the nonsense about god. The kid sees right through the crap. In fact, the kid has more brains than the idiot who calls himself president.
thatbobguy
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:59 am
16I understand and share Steve’s joy of learning from his child. We all could learn from them if we’d de-ass our heads long enough to do so. The loss of innocence is what has taught all of us to be as cynical, skeptical and agnostic as we are. I applaud Steve for giving pieces of himself, mind, body, and soul to his child, and for believeing that his child will mature into a discerning adult, capable of making and living with his own decisions, right or wrong. Perhaps he’ll have the presence of mind to refrain from bashing the joys of parenthood, and the thirst for knowledge of a 4-yr-old, and the child’s realization that some questions just cannot be answered.
Mike
October 2nd, 2006 at 12:00 pm
17That maze is awesome. And by the way, me and my family are moving into your garage. And maybe a few of our neighbors. Just how big is that thing? Or does that camera add 10 pounds?
JD
October 2nd, 2006 at 12:17 pm
18Nice article and enjoyed it thoroughly. I don’t have any children myself but I have noticed that another rule is that every object can be made into a game. I once started showing a very inquisitive child different patterns made from cup coasters and to see if he could repeat them, he thought it was hilarious.
As for the heaven comment, I think:
1) That’s about as far from any religion you can get; and I think is a far cry from indoctrination.
2) It’s HIS child, not yours.
3) Someone suggested, “Present many different theories to him (Evolution, and also borrow from other religions if you like, Buddhism, Jainism, Hinduism, Christianity, Paganism, Taoism, Hare Krishna”ism”, Greek mythology, or even Flying Spaghetti Monsterism), then allow him to weigh up the theories and come to his own conclusions”
– I bet you are a hoot at a party. This is by the way, a small child, can you be any more moronic.
4) Nice to see a positive male parenting article instead of the normal bashing we normally get.
AJT
October 2nd, 2006 at 12:48 pm
19Wonderful article.
Unlike the overly sensitive atheist types (me thinks they doth protest too much), it actually is perfectly ok to teach your child your beliefs as you see fit. But you seem level-headed enough to know that.
What really upsets them is that you aren’t teaching your child THEIR beliefs.
Chase
October 2nd, 2006 at 12:51 pm
20God does exist. There is nothing wrong with him teaching his son that.
Aside from that, it’s really not cool to attack an article where a father is sharing special experiences he’s had with his son.
To the author I say way to go, it sounds like you’re doing a great job and learning from each other.
Sarah
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:00 pm
21You sound like a great Dad keep it up.
My Dad was like you, and I still think he was the best teacher in the world. I loved him to bits and miss him madly he passed away (went to heaven or what ever) 10 years ago and not a day goes by when his little life lessons come to me as a reminder of who I really am. Love you Daddy!
kailani
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:05 pm
22My daughter is 4 and asks tons of questions! Sometimes I know the answer, sometimes I make them up!
Here via Carnival of Family Life.
BTW, congrats on winning the drawing. Would you like the macadamia nut candy or the Kona coffee? Email me . . .
Randy K. Barnes
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:39 pm
23Matthew 18:3 and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven…Jesus…
Dave
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:42 pm
24> JD wrote: – I bet you are a hoot at a party. This is by the way, a small child, can you be any more moronic.
You’re underestimating the intelligence of children, and overcomplicating the question his kid asked. It’d probably take Steve a few hours at most to learn about a set of differing theologies theories on creation (we’re not talking about anything else), and a minute or so to summarize it.
Like so: “Some people believe we were made out of dust, by a giant old guy w/ a beard who lives in the clouds, and will deny entry to Heaven to anyone who doesn’t worship him. Others believe we were brought here in DC-9’s then dumped into volcanos by the evil lord Xenu, and salvation can only be achieved by means of large donation and the use of E-meters.”
wer
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:43 pm
25Chase Says:
October 2nd, 2006 at 12:51 pm
God does exist. There is nothing wrong with him teaching his son that.
LOL you mean you BELIEVE god does exist….but there is no proof of that and until there is, science rules that there is NO god. maybe someday we’ll be proven wrong, but until then…..
Sarah
October 2nd, 2006 at 2:38 pm
26It is the Author’s right and prerogative to teach what ever he wants to his son. Please grow up and leave the religious fanaticisms out of this. Who cares? He is teaching his son what his parents taught him. If the child grows up and decides that he prefers Witchcraft or the worship of Amoeba Science let him be, at least he knows what his father believed in and that’s what matters! I don’t agree with my father’s religion at all, but I loved him for who he was, what he taught me and how he guided me over and above his belief. We all need guidance of some nature when we are young (and old in most cases) if we diden’t have that we would all end up in a nut house or a prison.
Dan P
October 2nd, 2006 at 2:49 pm
27I was going to criticise what I perceived as religious indoctrination until I read this. I think you’re right and I’m glad you reminded me. There are times when I believe it is right to go on the offensive. But now isn’t one of them.
If you define intelligence as the capacity to learn and solve problems, children are way more intelligent as adults. This isn’t just some nice feel-good statement that people like to throw around. It’s plainly true. Kids learn to speak languages, figure out the basic physics of the world around them, develop understanding of people’s minds and so on with very little pre-existing knowledge. They do all this simultaneously. They’re amazing!
God
October 2nd, 2006 at 3:28 pm
28I am real, so is heaven. All bow down to me or burn in hell for your disbelief and ignorance.
Jenny Ryan
October 2nd, 2006 at 3:43 pm
29What a great kid!
Blah
October 2nd, 2006 at 3:51 pm
30You guys arguing about heaven and having a go at the writer are absolute idiots, it’s his right to believe whatever he wants. Him telling his son his beliefs are fine, when the kid gets older he can make up his own mind. He is not forcing his views on him, but rather telling him what he believes is true.
Mr Angry
October 2nd, 2006 at 3:58 pm
31A question posed by my daughter at 4: “If god made us and god loves us, why does god let us get sick?”
My answer: “ask your mother - she’s the one sending you to sunday school”
Gavri Fernandez
October 2nd, 2006 at 4:07 pm
32Kids, listen. God is Santa Claus for adults. Don’t go around asking adults questions and ruining their fantasies.
Rich
October 2nd, 2006 at 4:56 pm
33Great article. Thanks for sharing.
Gregor Cz.
October 2nd, 2006 at 5:12 pm
34Lol at all this.
Marc Holt
October 2nd, 2006 at 5:31 pm
35Steve is doing a great job. It’s a pity about Question #4 though. Instead of telling his kid the cat would definitely go to heaven, he should have been more honest and said he didn’t know. That way, he would engender more respect from his son, who wasn’t taken in at all. Instead, he asked a very sensible question about how we get to heaven. At that stage, Steve should have stopped and thought about what he was trying to teach his son. Despite this, I give Steve 9 out of 10 points.
mystilleef
October 2nd, 2006 at 7:31 pm
36I bookmarked the article. Food for thought.
I believe in God. When I have kids, God willing, I’m going to “indoctrinate” them in my beliefs.
To those who think I’m retarded because of my beliefs, I say a big resounding “FU!”
Tim McCormack
October 2nd, 2006 at 7:47 pm
37One of the most important lessons is that you never have to grow up. Getting old isn’t a choice, but growing up is. Don’t let the adult world tell you otherwise!
For my 22nd birthday, my parents gave me a card with a Madeleine L’Engle quote: “The great thing about getting older is that you don’t lose all the other ages you’ve been.”
Elias
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:17 pm
38Sometimes I wonder if atheists are a lot stupider than the religious they mock.
It’s human psychology. Heaven is positive -”rebirth”. So what if it doesn’t exist, it’s about taking attention off the negative - the death. People don’t want the truth. There is a difference in believing in something, and a difference in playing along. If it wasn’t for the mainstream religious establishments, a government cult or a new-age freak story would take its place.
Wasn’t it Voltaire that said if God did not exist, man would have a need to create him? Let the kid pick holes in the religious story - if anything, he’s developing a critical mind.
vbgunz
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:33 pm
39Those people who argue about believing and knowing, God and science are truly lost although they will have compelling and well armed objections. Some will even sound convincing and some perfect. The power of belief is a science no science today can comprehend nor decipher. People will cry and wine about there being no God, no heaven, nothing after death. I say prove it! People will cry and wine about they’re being a God, heaven and life after death. I say again, prove it. Science is no match for God. Science today cannot cure the common cold in humans so how can science understand God, the creator of science and colds? If we were all to speak only of things in which we knew were fact, well, science wouldn’t exist at all today and neither would God. Read that last line again.
Steve it is a good system to teach your son moral and positive belief. Without your son tapping into the power of it, he will only attempt to do what he knows how and that in a sense is worse than death itself. Even scientist understand this. Nice read!
Gerard
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:58 pm
40Funny, you write a “10 things” article about your son and end up having theological debate in the comments!
Keep up the good work Steve. I was nodding my head in recognition as I read your post, especially the one about keeping positive (one of my major failings, I think).
No doubt you’ll have an entirely different “10 things” in a few years time. The learning never ends with children!
I remember once my daughter asked me what I did at work. I tried to explain that I was an IT Manager and parts of what I did. She distilled it correctly: “So you fix the computers?” Took the wind right out of my sails!
AdventureDad
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:02 am
41Thanks for a great post. Sounds like you’re doing a fantastic job with your children. Your son should be on the lecture circuit. He could come and teach the people at my company tons of things:-))
And please, enough comments about God! You’re all missing the big picture.
Best of luck with your children!
Regards
AD
Mike G
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:04 am
42I have to disagree with all of the posts that have tried to give a positive spin to religions. I find it hard to understand the viewpoint that there is something good to come out of such falacious belief systems.
The gods of the ancient Greeks & Romans, the terrible god of Abraham and even the Flying Spaghetti Monster can all be bagged up together and disposed of as an historical aberation.
It is time to kick free of religions and to stand up proud as a thinking rational human being.
numlok
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:11 am
43This is well written, fun, and informative, thanks!
That said, apologies in advance for the following rant. I actually REALLY liked to article (”warts and all”). It’s just that some of the responses got under my skin…
vbgunz: “Science today cannot cure the common cold in humans so how can science understand God”.
Seriously, what kind of argument is that? Would you care to discount all of the advances/cures that science HAS made (at an exponential rate), simply based on the fact that there is a problem that hasn’t been solved YET? I mean, scientists have only been working on a cure for the common cold for how long now? God’s had (ahem) 6000 years to find a good use for male nipples, and what has he come up with… ?
I would love to see people like you take a heaping dose of your own “medicine”, renouncing all the trappings of modern (/science derived) life and see how it suits you. Live as “God made you”: Toss your glasses, your heart medication, your Insulin, your Advair, and your Viagra, for they are surely the work of the godless heathens and have no place in the Lord’s Kingdom.
To that point, feel free to read the following sentence repeatedly as needed: “Your faith is not the source of your extended life span”.
Elias: “If it wasn’t for the mainstream religious establishments, a government cult or a new-age freak story would take its place.”
Um, hyperbolize much? Where’s the substantiation for this? ANY evidence pointing in this direction, or are you just pulling this out of (ahem) thin air for drama’s sake? Maybe kids would start eating broccoli and worshiping soap if organized religion weren’t around, you never know…
And, in case you were wondering, yes, I have two “sprouts” of my own, both of whom are incredibly intelligent, curious, well adjusted/socialized, and engaging “little folks”. They know I’m not going to feed them any BS, and I think they’re better off for it. Logic doesn’t necessarily predicate joylessness, just the same as piety doesn’t predicate decency.
I have a sneaking suspicion that despite the fact that I don’t feed them one of the MANY “official moral codes”, they’re going to grow up to be kind and conscientious just the same. After all, if religion were truly a “cure” for moral decrepitude, I doubt it would have ever made it past clinical trials.
Keep on asking the big questions!
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October 3rd, 2006 at 1:51 am
44[...] 10 things i learned from my 4 year old [...]
sergio
October 3rd, 2006 at 2:19 am
45nice!! very nice!!!
Dena
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:09 am
46I like what you wrote.
I like what you told your son about God too. Of course he asked you who created God. Tell him that noone created God because God created everyone and everything and will be around forever. Children have a way of feeling what is true and real. How can a child look at this beautiful world and not ask “Who created this?”. Any thinking person should ask this question.
How sad for all the atheists out there who equate God with the Flying spaghetti Monster.
Mur
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:15 am
47I liked the refreshing lack of cynicism in this blog. I disliked the cynicism in the comments.
Silly Rabbits
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:28 am
48If a kid asks a question about God, or anything else, it doesn’t mean he “sees through it”. That’s just what you supposedly do.
I ask questions in all of my classes, and always have. Far from being evidence of cynicism or disbelief, it demonstrates that I want to learn more or need clarification.
He can teach his son his beliefs, just as you are free to teach that there is no God, or teach Islam or Judaism.
Lone Blob
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:43 am
49Very very good. Thank you for sharing.
As to all the arguing over G-d, I had a similar reaction, but as you said in number 1, you need to be positive. And that’s exactly what you did. It was the perfect answer, you’re a great dad.
Derek
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:53 am
50I can never remember the sources for stufflike this but didn’t someone like Pascal have a “wager” argument that said “If we believe in God and it ends up untrue then when we die it doesn’t matter, and if it is true then we believed in something that does matter.”
Discuss!
ksm
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:58 am
51Why all these comments are focusing on God creation when the main subject of this article is different?
Long time ago, people think Sun was God(god? whatever), Moon was God, mountains were god, everything they cannot explain or understand is God.
Later on, wise guys created separate entity as God of every other gods.
Oh! why my comment is about God too?
Great job!
Nugget
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:58 am
52First up, an excellent post that will leave many thinking. Well done Steve and it sounds as though you’re both learning from each other.
Next, it seems that most people are missing the point entirely and taking an adult approach to a childs question.
Number 4 wasn’t about whether or not God exists or how to tell children what happens when someone or something dies, it’s about not being afraid to ask big questions (as the title explained).
Too many of us just accept our beliefs, whether they’re on religion, politics, music, fashion or anything else without questioning them. Steve’s brilliant post is just reminding us that we should question them and keep asking big questions.
Loundry
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:59 am
53I am a non-superstitous person, so I do not include any superstitious instruction in the raising of my six-year-old son. Since we live in the USA and there are lots of Chrsitians around us, my son has been exposed to people who believe in a god and tell him about it. My son has asked me, “Is God real?” I answer, “Some people think he is.” He asks, “Do you believe in God?” I answer, “No, I don’t believe in God.” For a while, he would say, “I believe in God,” but rececenlty, he has decide that he does not. I have told him, “It’s okay to believe in God or to not believe in God.” It’s his choice, and I think the individual belief in a god is pretty minor in the grand scheme of things.
What I am stridently opposed to is the zealous and fervent belief in superstitous and baseless ideas to the point where it compels one to think that they can make moral decisions for EVERYONE. And this behavior is NOT merely limited to Evangelical Christians. I see this behavior in hateful “progressives” and fundamentalist Muslims all the time. It is dangerous, harmful, pompous, and arrogant, and it certainly does need to die and ugly and painful death. The poster above who wrote about “stupid Americans” is a prime example of the “progressive” version of a wicked Evangelical Christian zealot.
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Furbo
October 3rd, 2006 at 7:05 am
56Cool Steve - I enjoyed reading it :-)
Mike G and co. - you’re oblivious to the truth as all fanatics are, be they religious or atheist. Its easy to elevate the status of your so called rationality when you compare it to childish interpretations of religion. I strongly doubt you know enough about life to make any assertions on what does or does not happen after death.
Ryan
October 3rd, 2006 at 7:16 am
57wer Says:
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:43 pm
LOL you mean you BELIEVE god does exist….but there is no proof of that and until there is, science rules that there is NO god. maybe someday we’ll be proven wrong, but until then…..
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You’re exactly right wer - and that’s exactly what Steve said. Go back and R-E-A-D #4 . . .
“I had to admit to him that I didn’t know how you get to heaven, I just BELIEVE in it. ” [emphasis mine]
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Keep up the good work Steve, you’re raising a wonderful man.
BrianEWilliams
October 3rd, 2006 at 7:25 am
58I personally envy people who can believe in God because I think it gives them a lot of comfort. I have tried, but I keep finding the idea of God to be highly unlikely, and I can’t bring myself to believe in something so unlikely.
There is a danger in fantasy as it makes decision-making unreliable. People who say things like, “It must have been God’s will” when a gunman kills 5 girls in an Amish school house will probably have difficulty making correct decisions.
The key to navigating through life successfully is to have a realistic internal conception of the way the world works. Then you can model various actions in your head before undertaking them. Sort of like having a test server where a website can be debugged prior to going live. People whose internal models are flawed are going to make flawed decisions. I have decided that including most forms of God in one’s internal model is a serious flaw.
But, then again, I could be wrong.
I do believe in being good to other people, but I don’t do it because I worry about any particular punishment. The Golden Rule seems like enough of a moral compass, and introducing God as enforcer just doesn’t appeal to me.
I believe that the God that comforts most people is just an internal mental construct that possibly serves as a pipe between lower levels of cognitive processing and what we call consciousness. This allows people to tap into deep mental resources that might otherwise be unavailable to them.
I do think it is bad form to insult other people’s beliefs, especially since no one can be sure they are right, but I did enjoy the discussion.
Surely Jones
October 3rd, 2006 at 7:29 am
59My child recently asked me about heaven and I said that it was something that Christians believed in but I didn’t. I also mentioned the Buddhist idea of reincarnation. My kid is no dummy, he got the message: NOBODY KNOWS.
Apester
October 3rd, 2006 at 7:52 am
60I loved this post. I forwarded it to all my friends. Steve’s kid is really bright - that is obvious. I am an atheist and so are most of my friends - but we can see beyond whether people agree with our point of view or not. Steve’s kid is bright enough to figure it out for himself. Its going to be a while before he makes any important decisious about life.
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October 3rd, 2006 at 8:13 am
61[...] The little ones have so much to teach us [10 Things I learned from my Four Year Old] [...]
Josh
October 3rd, 2006 at 8:23 am
62So what caused the big bang?
Kathaclysm
October 3rd, 2006 at 8:26 am
63This is a wonderful article, I wish my father was so reflective on his experiences as I was a child. I think we could have both learned a lot more.
As for the “heaven” comment, I gather saying the kitty is going to heaven was the easy answer he thought he was supposed to give to his 4yr old, and this is where he learned there are questions that none of us can really answer truthfully, and he was reminded by his son to “ask the big questions.” Hopefully as the years go by they will both talk about these types of questions more & learn about what they believe, whatever that happens to be.
It’s interesting how such a small comment has brought all this animosity on both sides out of the woodwork. I’m sure more than a few atheists in this world who let their children believe in Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth fairy, and even Heaven, and only explain the truth as they see it, when the children are older. As an atheist, I can’t say I’d explain it to a 4yr old child any different. I was taught heaven & god, & I still made up my own mind.
In the U.S. everyone is entitled to teach their children whatever they wish, which can be good or bad depending on your point of view. It’s just nice to be reminded how much children teach us as well.
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October 3rd, 2006 at 8:26 am
64[...] What can the children around you teach you about business, marketing and life? Steve Olson thought about it and came up with 10 things he learned from his 4-year-old. Among them: A new synonym for persistence Santa Claus brought my son a white board and a set of dry erase makers for Christmas (can you tell I’m in IT). My son learned to write very early. He spent months obsessed with writing letters on the white board. One day I looked at the board while he was writing and I saw this combination of capital letters - SHHANDSHOWBO. He also knows how to sound out words, so I asked him what it was. He said, “It’s a word I made up - Sha-hand-show-bo.” I asked, “What does it mean?” He said, “To keep trying even when it’s hard.” Now when I get frustrated I think - Sha-hand-show-bo. To accept mistakes Watching my son grow and learn, it became clear that all learning is based on trying something new, making a mistake, adjusting your actions, trying again, repeating until you get the results you desire. That is how he learned to walk, speak, read, write, build lego walls, set up train tracks, jump, run, and pedal. I can’t think of one thing he did right the first time. It is a good thing he has an abundance of sha-hand-show-bo. To pay attention to little details When my son was 2, he was pointing in a box and saying, “ate, ate, ate, ate.” I said no you don’t want to eat the box. He said, “no, ate, ate, ate.” I looked in the box and it was empty. I looked at him puzzled. He stuck his face in the box and said, “ate, ate.” I looked again closely. On the bottom of the box, in the corner, printed in a small font was the number 8. He sees things I don’t see, because he pays attention to little things everywhere, like the tiny red dot on the white sheetrock wall he called an “owie.” [...]
Anthony
October 3rd, 2006 at 8:29 am
65Holy pizza on a stick! Steve posts about things he learn from his kids and all most of you did was read to number 4, read about “God” and Heaven and jumped straight to bitching. Get a grip!
Do I believe in God? No, what will I tell my kid when they ask where you go when you die? Heaven. Why? None of your damn business, it’s my kid, it’s my choice get bent.
Steve, great post, it made *me* rethink how I react and look at things.
Believer
October 3rd, 2006 at 8:33 am
66Loundry:
Perhaps if you adopted Jesus as your personal savior, He would help proofread your posts and edit out your spelling mistakes.
Chris
October 3rd, 2006 at 8:43 am
67Great stuff. You’re now on my blogroll and in my bloglines. I’m looking forward to even more from you guys!
Mary (Mert)
October 3rd, 2006 at 9:26 am
68Awesome post! I love how you have accepted Sha-hand-show-bofor what it is and have intergrated it into your vocabulary. :O)
RWB
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:05 am
69Steve,
isn’t it sad how relating even the simplest story about explaining some of life’s mysteries will degenerate into a religious argument? I am a devout Christian, but not nearly arrogant enough to think that I have the end word on exactly how it all works. I am impressed with your desire to teach your child the value of being honest, even in those things that can’t be readily explained. The fact that you are actually giving your child some training based on what you hold to be important should cause those criticizing you to think about why they are holding onto their beliefs (for and against) so tightly that they would rather lash out at someone being real than to look at their own motives.
I enjoy your outlook on life- keep posting!
Andrew
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:23 am
70I love the post. You obviously love your boy. I have four boys and love learning from them, too.
Everyone go read “The Case For A Creator” by Lee Strobel and revel in the evidence for Intelligent Design. Six branches of science are examined — cosmology. physics, astronomy, DNA, biochemistry, and Consciousness — backed by Nobel Laureates, scientists, journalists, and more — and see if you can ever again doubt the magnificent, intelligent creativity packed into our beautiful universe.
Sorry, athiests — I love you dearly, but this universe is too amazing and too irreducibly complex for Darwinian evolution to stand a chance in the face of what modern science now knows. Go read the book if you can bear to have your world view turned upside down. :-)
And i LOVE the love of this father for his son.
Actual Scientist
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:07 am
71Andrew,
Wow, modern science really “knows” all that?? I guess that PhD I earned sure was inadequate!
Scientists are the first people to tell you they don’t “know” things for sure - they’ve just deduced what’s the likely cause. Religious fanatics are the ones who claim to be *so sure* about our origins. Even Mike G - who got this flame war going - called the God hypothesis “pretty unlikely.” That’s not nearly as definitively stated as your faulty rationale. Nice try.
Matt Wright
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:45 am
72Steve, loved your post here. Especially the parts about God - I find my kids ask many of the same questions.
Almost every scientific discipline I know begins hypothesis with some ‘premonition’ or belief about reality. We test it, and eventually find out whether it’s true or not. People who believe in God fall into one-of-two camps: they either believe or they know that God exists.
The ones that know have done what it takes to get to know God on a personal level–the same way a scientist experiments to discover a scientific truth. The ones that believe are typically on their way to ‘knowing’ God eventually.
The only ones who seem to be left in the dark are the atheists. They remind of me of the kids who used to say ‘math is stupid - when am I ever going to use it?’ - and eventually out of neglect, they never discover how beautiful / amazing this discipline really is.
Keep up the good work!
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October 3rd, 2006 at 11:48 am
73[...] 10 Things I Learned from My 4-Year-Old - Steve Olson [...]
Rebecca
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:55 am
74Your son sounds like a very intelligent person. I wish I could say the same for many of these commenters.
Marc
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:41 pm
75Great post, great personality. Perfect brainfood. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
And -let’s say- ‘interessting’ how many people consider giving their four year old children university-strength lectures about a bouquet of religions in the face of a deceased cat.
And a last word to all the critics of #4: atheism is just another believe until ‘proven by science’.
And I rather believe in something than not to believe in anything.
Sarah
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:54 pm
76Thank you Rebecca, seems you the author Steve his son and one or two others are the only sane elements left on this comentary planet all the others want to spoil a great Dads story with rantings on religion. Now pay attention those lessons from your kids they see it like it is!!
Trevor
October 3rd, 2006 at 2:19 pm
77The bible was actually first written down hundreds of years after Jesus and all the disciples were dead, based on campfire tales. I think the first compilation was around 1200? Then it was edited for hundreds of years by politically motivated religious leaders for their own political and financial gain. What we have now is the result of a very long game of telephone, and you know how that usually ends up. Loads of laughs!
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Which intellegent human believes this crap? the Bible should be burnt for brainwashing us!!!
vbgunz
October 3rd, 2006 at 2:19 pm
78numlok: your argument is moot. I did not defend or attack God or science. You missed my point. Please do a search for my name on this page and read my comment once more. I am on neither side and yet I am. My point was if you cannot prove that God does exist then you surely cannot disprove Gods existence. My point in the end was quite simple. If a father teaches his son a positive belief, why counter that with something in which you have no proof? Think about it :)
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October 3rd, 2006 at 6:33 pm
79[...] This is an insightful, touching, and wise post from a dad who has a very lucky son. 10 Things I Learned from My 4-Year-Old–steve-olson.com To pay attention to little details When my son was 2, he was pointing in a box and saying, “ate, ate, ate, ate.” I said no you don’t want to eat the box. He said, “no, ate, ate, ate.” I looked in the box and it was empty. I looked at him puzzled. He stuck his face in the box and said, “ate, ate.” I looked again closely. On the bottom of the box, in the corner, printed in a small font was the number 8. He sees things I don’t see, because he pays attention to little things everywhere, like the tiny red dot on the white sheetrock wall he called an “owie.” [...]
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October 3rd, 2006 at 8:13 pm
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Natalie
October 3rd, 2006 at 8:40 pm
81Wow! I can’t believe how many negative remarks there are! I think people missed the WHOLE point of this blog, so sad. I thought this was very touching, thank you.
george
October 3rd, 2006 at 9:04 pm
82As the father of another four year old, kudos for a great post and a great perspective, Steve. My takeaway is to remember that a father and a son exist by the interaction of their lives.
As far as the God and heaven thing, I can’t wait until he ask the question “where do babies come from?” to see how many of these folks expect an explanation that includes an explanation of the chemical structures of DNA and RNA. Jeez!
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October 4th, 2006 at 12:24 am
85[...] Do you believe you have to teach your child everything about life? Wrong. Turns out a 4-year old has plenty of stuff to teach us adults. Check out the post by Steve Olson, titled "What I Learned From My 4-Year Old Son". There is plenty of advice which applies to us grownups as well. Steve put together a short list with some highlights. A couple of my favorites are: [...]
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October 4th, 2006 at 5:14 am
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Angelonfire
October 4th, 2006 at 5:34 am
87Good Job, Just the fact that you spend time and make time and love your 4 year old gets a cheer from me. What I have learned by raising my 7 children 2 grand children. (2-29) is that not only have they taught me in their innocents and purity. The one thing they remember is the LOVE and the TIME spent with them.. So if the argument is God verses No God …or oraganized religon.. Bottomline is God is Love and your actions speak louder then words . I think you are doing a wonderful job
IB
October 4th, 2006 at 5:57 am
88I was raised cristian, and i guess i learned some good morale from it. But after getting some life experience i learned that religion is nothing you really can count on. God never does anything concrete when I have a bad day. I have never really experienced that “God is good”. God has never stopped anybody’s personal ego and ambitions to promote themself by kicking other asses (and there alot of those people), and he never will.
I would learn my son that he can only count on himself for happines and try to be a good and open person, religios or not. Than life will threat you well.
sreeshant
October 4th, 2006 at 7:48 am
89Very nice post, steve.
I am literally living through it. I have a 3 year old daughter, and watching her closely has been a very educative and inspiring experience. The world they dwell in is far saner, much simpler. Oh what a loss it would be, to have little kids directed and conditioned to sustain themselves in the world we adults live in.
The very best of my wishes to your boy and the excellent dad you are trying to be.
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October 4th, 2006 at 10:36 am
90[...] As a father, I highly suggest the blog post ‘10 Things I Learned from My 4-Year-Old ‘. I am not all that sure how I came across this but was really impressed that the author was so in tune to his son. [...]
Katelynsmomy
October 4th, 2006 at 12:30 pm
91I thought this was a fabulous post as seen through the eyes of a parent. I have a 4 year old daughter and the things I learn from her amaze me daily. We take for granted everything around us asd we get older and after raising a young child, you begin to see everything in a new light. Children have this amazing way of taking you out of your comfort zone while they question and second guess everything you know. There have been many times my daughter has actually left me speechless because I didn’t know how to answer her questions. That is a feat for anyone as I usually have a comment for everything. We have had several pets that have either died, given to new homes, or just disappeared. It’s very hard to explain to a child (at least for me) why their cat “Boots” is never coming back. As far as the several floating fish, I just tell her they got very sick and died. As far as where they go when they die, I’m not quite sure I recall if she asked that question. Her father is a hunter so the death of animals is not real foreign to her, but there is little to no talk about heaven and the like. Not because I’m an unbeliever, because I am a believer, but because I haven’t been blessed with that conversation as yet. I am a firm believer in the blatent honest truth. There is very little sugar coating involved in my explanations of things. I’m not brutal, but am very frank. So the day the conversation of religion comes up, I guess I will then find out how I’m going to answer. But it is the parent’s perogative on how/what they teach their children about God and Heaven and they should not be judged on those beliefs. Believing there isn’t a God is still a belief none the less.
Chris
October 4th, 2006 at 12:37 pm
92My mom sent this to me to share in the wonderful experiences this father and son are having. I loved the stories about your son, Steve. Mostly though, I loved that a father is so in touch with his son’s day-to-day life and is able to see and appreciate all the powerful lessons he has to teach. Previous generations of dads were not allowed, or encouraged, to be this sensitive and in touch with their kids. I think everyone suffered for it and I’m so glad to know that things have changed dramatically. Good for you, Steve, for being an engaged father. I don’t have any kids, but all the lessons your son taught you will now, thanks to your willingness to share, be valuable lessons for me as well. Thank you.
As for all the religious comments, I found those equally intriguing. This story was about lessons learned and there are lessons contained in the comment section as well. I was raised Christian. I attended Lutheran elementary school and a radical Catholic high school because my mom thought I’d get a better education than I could in public school. We weren’t Lutheran or Catholic, in fact my mom was very interested in metaphysics and Science of MInd (which is not Christian Science). So, I’d had a lot of exposure to many different ideas about God and religion by the time I was 18.
Until very recently, I accepted my belief in God without much pain or struggle. However, since high school I believed organized religion was bogus. When I was a student at Catholic school I was very inquisitive and I had questions about God. My religion teacher did not appreciate my questions (basic stuff like: If God loves us why does God let bad stuff happen to us? or If God is true, why can’t he just make it easy and tell us he exists? or If God created everyone on the planet, why would he allow some of us to believe in some religions that aren’t true only to penalize us for it when we get to heaven? or How do we figure out if Christianity is better, or righter, than Buddhism or any other religion in existence?). Anyway, rather than answer my questions, or be embarrassed by my asking in front of the other kids, he sent me to the Dean’s office everyday. Everyday!
Seeing the rise of religious fanaticism in the past years has been alarming and it’s caused me to take a look at my relationship with God and religion. I also have a partner who was raised Mormon and was proud of his utter commitment to the _true church of God_. He was the very best Mormon he could be. Until he just couldn’t do it anymore. I see how much pain he struggles with from the damage done by the church and that too has made me question the rightness of imposing religion on children.
I also had a friend die recently from _cancer_. At his funeral (put on by his friends, not his family) it came out that he was a Christian Scientist. People started putting things together and realized if he’d never been to a doctor, he probably didn’t have _cancer_. In fact, it was widely accepted that he likely had HIV/AIDS. It was at this point that we all began to consider the stories of his 7-year old brother that died from _cancer_ when they were children. In the name of religion at least 2 members of his family died when they likely could have been kept alive with the assistance of some doctors.
In the end, I’ve come to the conclusion that religion is a man-made thing and man is imperfect. I lean now toward the same kind of thinking that Trevor illustrated. The Bible was a giant game of Telephone that took place over hundreds of years, with thousands of players, many that could neither read or write. It’s also important to remember that politics played a huge role and religion was a wonderful tool for organizing and exploiting the masses. Given the historical beginnings of the Bible, it only seems reasonable to question people who choose to take its words literally. Seriously, try playing a game of telephone tonight with your family and see if it doesn’t make you think about the weight given to the Bible.
I’m not worried about Steve telling his child about Heaven when their cat died. I am intrigued though by how many people wanted to critique or discuss it. What that says to me is that we as a people are craving this discussion on a larger scale. And that is very promising. We can only get to know and understand each other through conversation and sharing and right now we have far too many folks willing to dismiss those unlike themselves. We’ve got to do what we can to turn this around and actively seek out ways to move closer together instead of perpetuating the moving apart toward utter isolation and dangerous extremes in thinking.
Thanks again Steve for a very thoughtful morning!
Death and God
October 4th, 2006 at 2:04 pm
93I found that just explaining to a 3 years old that dying is ceasing to exist and never coming back is just accepted as is.
It’s nature and it’s how nature works. She was actually introduced to death the first time she crushed an ant at the age of 3 and stopped to think about what just happened. It’s that natural, no need to introduce heaven and fairy tales.
For them, as a toy breaks and ceases to work, so do live things. If you just explain that things are no longer and will never be again, kids accept that easily.
If you go the heaven way, you are in for trouble as none of us can really explain the heaven concept even if we beileve in it.
As for god, I took the approach of god as a powerful force controlling the bigger things around us (the sun, the moon, the sky, the trees). Forseeing the problems in the byblical god concept, I explained that god can hear us but does not answer, I also explained that god does not “decide” on people and what they do. We are too small for him.
Both explanations worked wonderfully, BTW.
Panget! » Fundie Wars
October 4th, 2006 at 7:51 pm
94[...] Steve Olson attempts to explain death to his 4-year-old son. Naturally, his own beliefs would color his explanations, just as anyone trying to explain anything would most certainly have hir own perceptions, beliefs and experiences color the words. [...]
abbrusc
October 4th, 2006 at 8:47 pm
95The main thing that my son taught me and my husband is that we curse too much. :)
numlok
October 5th, 2006 at 1:23 am
96Derek: “I can never remember the sources for stufflike this but didn’t someone like Pascal have a “wager” argument that said “If we believe in God and it ends up untrue then when we die it doesn’t matter, and if it is true then we believed in something that does matter.”
Discuss!”
—–ok—–
You’re right, it is “Pascal’s Wager”, and where it falls apart in its line of reasoning is that it necessitates a definition of the word “God”.
No matter your definition, it is still one of an infinite number that can be imagined (at least one for every current and forgotten world religion) , so the only way you could truly engage the wager is to believe in EVERY god in existence, which, I believe, invalidates the point the argument was intending to make.
Add to this the fact that almost all religions have some rule excluding belief in other “false religions”, and you’ll see that being a pantheist isn’t likely to win your eternal “big money” either.
Also, assuming this is the same God who knows your every thought, don’t you think believing in order to “hedge your bets” would be a fairly transparent approach? The God I’m thinking of has definitely damned/smote for less…
The only way the wager makes any sense at all is if you enter into it assuming that YOUR specific god exists, and that YOUR specific interpretation is correct. Without any evidence demonstrating a probability that a god of ANY kind exists, and that there are a finite number of interpretations of that god that are not mutually exclusive, there can be no validity behind your claim.
The argument is weak both logically and theologically… and reminds me of a joke:
I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. I immediately ran over and said “Stop! Don’t do it!”
“Why shouldn’t I?” he said.
I said, “Well, there’s so much to live for!”
“Like what?”
“Well … are you religious or atheist?”
“Religious.”
“Me too! Are you Christian or Jewish?”
“Christian.”
“Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?”
“Protestant.”
“Me too! Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?”
“Baptist.”
“Wow! Me too! Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?”
“Baptist Church of God.”
“Me too! Are you Original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?”
“Reformed Baptist Church of God.”
“Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1915?”
“Reformed Baptist Church of God, reformation of 1915!”
To which I said, “Die, heretic scum!” and pushed him off.
Software Development
October 5th, 2006 at 3:50 am
97The Irrelevance Factor…
I saw this blog entry today about 10 lessons this guy learned from his 4 year old son. I like the way kids think because it cuts through all the g ……
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David
October 5th, 2006 at 5:21 am
99As a dad of two young daughters, I loved this article. Very positive and good fun too. I’m not a believer in any faith, but I’ve also always strongly felt that it’s a father’s prerogative to fill his child’s head full of nonsense.
Mom not god
October 5th, 2006 at 8:04 am
100Steve,
Great article. Love your perspective on learning from parenting.
Chris,
Best response to religious ‘debates’ I have ever read online. All your experiences and conclusions match my life to date.
Live long and prosper.
Learning from a 4-year-old « Rades blog
October 5th, 2006 at 11:31 pm
101[...] Kids can be amazing. Steve Olson wrote in his post 10 Things I Learned from My 4-Year-Old ten really simple things that his four-year-old son has taught him. Think about them! [...]
Rade
October 5th, 2006 at 11:35 pm
102Great post! Must be a lovely kid :)
Buddy
October 6th, 2006 at 1:41 am
103Steve,
As a grandparent of a 2 & 3 yr old I appreciate your insights, and those of others regarding child observation. I am not bashing my parents, but I can guarantee you all that I did not have the benefit of the parental insight that you have observed through your interaction with your child. As a consequence, neither did I approach the rearing of my children with the wisdom that you have shared with us. As I strive to learn more in order to be a better (grand) parent I thank you for sharing your insights. The ones that will work for me I will grasp and develop more completely, and if there should be any that might not fit my ideas I will be glad that they work for you. I am sorry that I am unable to contribute additional insights along this topic. I really feel that if people do not use your blog as a springboard to tell of their observations that they are missing the true opportunty that you have presented here.
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October 6th, 2006 at 9:24 am
104[...] Before I go on with my usual guff and tripe, check out this entry from some guy about his 4-yearold son. If not for the feel-good factor, then read it for the huge religious debate in the comments. Hilarity beckons… [...]
10 Things I Learned From My 4-Year Old at Clint Lalonde Dot Net
October 7th, 2006 at 6:49 am
105[...] I loved this blog posting from Dad Steve Olson called 10 Things I Learned from My 4-Year-Old. Too bad that the comments section degenerates into juvenile name calling regarding Steve’s wish to teach his kids that when the cat dies he went to heaven. Regardless of what my beliefs may be, if Steve wishes to teach his kids that there is a heaven then great. If he wanted to teach his kids otherwise, then that is great as well. The key point here is that he is teaching and passing on his values. [...]
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October 7th, 2006 at 6:49 am
106[...] I loved this blog posting from Dad Steve Olson called 10 Things I Learned from My 4-Year-Old. Too bad that the comments section degenerates into juvenile name calling regarding Steve’s wish to teach his kids that when the cat dies he went to heaven. Regardless of what my beliefs may be, if Steve wishes to teach his kids that there is a heaven then great. If he wanted to teach his kids otherwise, then that is great as well. The key point here is that he is teaching and passing on his values. [...]
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October 10th, 2006 at 12:46 am
107[...] credit: http://www.steve-olson.com/10-things-i-learned-from-my-4-year-old/ [...]
Mike T
October 11th, 2006 at 3:43 am
108I haven’t read all the comments on the author’s relatively benign “#4″ answer to his son, but it seems that at least a few people are reading way more into it than necessary. Where, exactly, does the son “see through” the “indoctrination” that his Dad has given him? All the son asks is “How do you get to heaven?” and “… who made God?” Neither of those questions say anything except that the child is curious to know more. I would be curious, too, if someone told me God made me and that everyone went to heaven. If a parent BELIEVES that certain things are true about God and is basing his/her life (eternal) on that, then they should be educating themselves, and their child on that. Going to church, or synagogue, or mosque, or whatever religious institution God draws you to is the best next step in that education (not indoctrination).
Jeff
October 11th, 2006 at 5:38 am
109Fun article. I hope you’re enjoying it Dad.
Two things I learned from my young daughter:
1) In giving my girl a drink, I intentionally filled the cup half way and asked the philosophical question of her -’is the cup half empty or half full?’ Her reply was ‘ I dunno, but I got some!’
2) Once I asked her ‘where do you think we go after we die?’ She told me ‘probably the same place we were before we were born’. I think about that a lot.
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noelkomgs;eu
October 24th, 2006 at 5:39 am
112Great post and uplfiting thoughts. Thanks,
Noel
Tegerio McCrae
November 1st, 2006 at 10:12 am
113Although this was great learning to help with my own son that’s 4 years old also, but I was truly looking for a biblical answer to why God allows Death, especially when it is seemingly premature! A man’s days shall be 3 score and 10 by christian virtue 4 score, so when someone especially a christian die’s or is killed before that time, I want some answers! I know that this isn’t a unique question that hasn’t been asked billions of times, but it seems know one has an answer, can you help me, I’m not inmature in the faith of God nor his scriptures, at least I think, but I’m hoping for answers of the dynamics of death and why it’s is! I just want to understand it and want to be able to later teach it to others, also!
matt fluty
November 19th, 2006 at 11:48 pm
114i find all these articals very informative and inspiring because i am only 16 and still have many things to learn about how i live my life. i enjoy read about ur past experiances(sp) and i hope mine will be as good or better than yours and hope my children are as bright as urs
Sacha
November 20th, 2006 at 8:34 pm
115“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End”-Revelation 22:13
There was nothing before God, and there’s nothing after God. It’s hard for a four-year old to grasp that truth, that God was always and no one made Him, it’s even hard for us to understand it. That’s why it takes faith to believe it.
“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”-John 3:16
You believe Heaven exists. Now the question is, how do you get to heaven? It’s as simple as 1+1 = 2. God loves us all. He created us and made us on His image (”So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them”-Genesis 1:27). Sin, as we all know it, started when Adam & Eve disobeyed God. We’re all sinners. Our destiny is hell. We’re all destined to suffer God’s anger, because of our sins. But God’s mercy is so abundant, and his love for us is so great that while we were still disobediant in sins, He brought us to life with Christ. He sent his Son Jesus to die for us on the cross, to forgive our sins. If you believe in that amazing love, you admit you’re a sinner, you accept Jesus in your heart as your personal savior, then you’ll go to heaven. It’s God’s gift offered to you. It’s your choice to accept it or to refuse it. I was 7 years old when I was told that. It touched my heart and life and since then I have a daily relationship with my Savior and I’m the happiest girl alive.
It’s not hard for kids to understand all of that. Jesus himself said: “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”-Matthew 19:14
I’ll pray for your child and you :) God bless
J David
November 28th, 2006 at 3:06 pm
116Hey, this was a great post. I just wanted to let you know that it inspired me to write a similar post about my new puppy. If you are interested, you can find it here:
http://www.jdavidmacor.com/2006/11/28/5-things-i-learned-from-my-new-puppy/
Anyhow, good luck with your kid!
Kostas
January 20th, 2007 at 10:32 am
117Hello Steve,
very interesting read, it’s amazing how many things you can learn from a child. Just one comment: trying to change your “natural” vocabulary in front of your child seems unnatural to me. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think it’s good to swear badly in front of a kid. But swearing is something that he’s going to hear anyway, sooner or later, so it’s better for him to be familiar with it and understand when people use it, that to learn it in a “oh that’s cool, my dad never does it” environment. And “that’s just ridiculous” is not too heavy even for a 4-year-old.
Think about it. You have a common sense about swearing right? And probably your father didn’t pay too much attention about how he speaks. Mine didn’t. We just grew up naturally. “Naturally” doesn’t mean “in the absence of everything that’s bad.
Cheers.
gquick
January 20th, 2007 at 10:38 am
118“There was nothing before God, and there’s nothing after God. It’s hard for a four-year old to grasp that truth, that God was always and no one made Him, it’s even hard for us to understand it. That’s why it takes faith to believe it.”
Would it not be as big a leap of faith to saw that perhaps the universe always existed, there was nothing before, and nothing after? That seems to make more sense to me instead of a “supernatural god”. We can see the universe and study it, while god is a man-created construct, having no basis in reality.
And no, we aren’t born evil…. people are more good than they are bad.
babar
January 20th, 2007 at 10:39 am
119Great article. I hope most people reading all this crap below it realize there is little to no added wisdom in these comments. I wish I could post near the top of this section to warn people before they choose to continue and waste their time.
Alex
January 20th, 2007 at 11:01 am
120Really enjoyed your observations. Thanks for writing them down and being so transparent.
I don’t think any of these insensitive and critical commenters would have the courage to say any of that to your face. Don’t be discouraged by it.
John Cornell
January 20th, 2007 at 11:39 am
121I really enjoyed your blog. I can also say that I’m glad to see that the true colors of atheism that I always suspected have seen the light - absolutely no class.
Judging by the comments here, it would seem that the world has turned atheist and the normal people who beleive in God are few. Actually, your blog post was posted on Digg.com, which demographically consists of a hugely disproportionate amount of both liberals and atheists. Rest assured more than 98% of the world’s population has not lost their head with the atheists.
Helgi Sigurðsson
January 20th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
122Great blog, one of the most awesome thinking material I’ve found in a casual blog site. Keep up the good work Steve.
Matt
January 20th, 2007 at 1:42 pm
123God doesn’t exist. And no, you may not complain about my comment — it’s freedom of speech.